Yeah, you get three because neither the Kabuto one nor the Hinata one wanted to evolve that direction.
Hinata, on her fifteenth birthday: From her sister, a string of tiny mutlicoloured beads Hanabi made herself.
From Ino, a mirror, a shopping trip, and a heavy make-out session in the fitting cabine.
From Neji, a fight, but this time he’s the one asking if she’s willing.
Kabuto: - Kabuto’s adoptive father celebrates the day he took him to Konoha, as if Kabuto never existed out of it.
- Sasori sends Kabuto annual updates on the situation out of Kabuto’s immediate circle on the day he recruited Kabuto to Akatsuki.
- Orochimaru, on the day he turned Kabuto to him, looks smugger than usual.
Kabuto thinks nothing of it except the sardonic amusement he did on the other occasions, until the moment, picking up a slip of paper that has fallen to the ground by Orochimaru’s desk, he sees his birthdate sprawled onto the ivory parchment.
He looks up into Orochimaru’s dancing slit eyes, and he reaches the sensible decision; deliberately, he tears the paper into uneven parts, and lets them fall back to the ground. Then, without taking his eyes away from Orochimaru’s, he threads his fingers in his maste’s hair.
Orochimaru’s smile widens.
KabuHina:
Their first anniversary, Kabuto waits until he’s had his gift before informing her of the fact. It’s only after she throws up that she realises he may very well be lying.
Their second anniversay, Kabuto idly asks her how she feels about children. He watches her face turn a greenish, ashen shade before she scrambles out of the dining room, and he wonders if he wouldn’t like to make this into a tradition, while Orochimaru chuckles in the background.
Their third anniversary, Kabuto doesn’t come. (Hinata feels slightly nauseous.)
From Ino, a mirror, a shopping trip, and a heavy make-out session in the fitting cabine.
Oh Ino! I desperately want to hear more about the circumstances of this. XD
He looks up into Orochimaru’s dancing slit eyes, and he reaches the sensible decision; deliberately, he tears the paper into uneven parts, and lets them fall back to the ground. Then, without taking his eyes away from Orochimaru’s, he threads his fingers in his maste’s hair.
::shiver:: No idea what's going on but sweet Jesus!
And children. Bloody children. This is turning into Rosemary's Baby and the anti-Christ all over again!
There actually was a story behind Ino's one and Hanabi's one, so I'd tried to write it with all the details I had in mind, but it'd have required me to think over Neji's, and anyway it didn't really work the way short did. >_>
...I'll see if I can make a quick ficlet out of the scenes I have in my head. (Mostly it had to do with Ino trying to build Hinata's self-confidence up, though the make-out session was not planned.)
OroKabu thingie: I was thinking in terms of symbolism of birthdates blahblah and Kabuto rejecting his real birthdate as a symbol for the one Orochimaru made him his servant, and so becoming purely Orochimaru's creature.
Thought: Kabuto acts on it by pulling a move on Orochimaru, who just made his get born as his. Symbolical incest. 0_0
KabuHina kids: but she's so easy to TERRORISE with eeeeeeet.
And children. Bloody children. This is turning into Rosemary's Baby and the anti-Christ all over again!
hey, i'll have you know that all of the kabukids in my crackverse are fairly well-adjusted and sweet, despite being kabuto spawn :D There is a chance, however tiny, that anything springing from Kabuto's loins might not be entirely psychotic. Maybe. If the planets align correctly and the atmospheric conditions are favorable, perhaps.
Think of it this way: Hinata comes from a long line of people who think slavery and the ability to melt people's minds on a whim is just fine and dandy and look how she turned out. :D
Well, Hiashi doesn't seem to have given up on her totally until she was 12 or so, when we see Kurenai's flashback of him telling her to do whatever she wants with Hinata because he doesn't care if she dies or not. Hanabi wasn't born until Hinata was about five or six, and unless she was a ninja genius from the moment she could walk, that leaves about another five years or so for her to get old enough to show that she was stronger than her sister and seal Hiashi's aggravation with Hinata.
So Hinata probably had about a decade before the Hyuuga collectively threw their hands up in disgust and said "she's useless, get her out of our sight" and since we see from Neji's flashback to her at three that she's always been timid and soft-natured (and Hiashi let her hide and cling to him then, not something a completely stern father would do) I'd say that it's more like Hinata was set against the "normal" Hyuuga persona from birth.
Yeah, but I don't think that sort of opinion sprang out from nowhere, so Hinata must have heard a lot of things with more or less the same meaning over the years. It probably didn't happen from the moment she was born - like you said, Hiashi didn't seem to act like an abusive father in the flashback. Otoh, in the flashback, Hizashi was still alive. It's possible that Hiashi, consciously or not, resents Hinata for being the indirect cause of his brother's death. Or he compared her to Neji and saw Neji as superior. Or both.
And even if Hiashi, at one point, was able or willing to look past Hinata's weakness/whatever, it's very possible that others did not. I'm thinking of the twins' father here, he seems like a charming man and it's obvious from the flashback that he still held a lot of weight in the Hyuuga.
In Neji's flashback, his father tells him that 'he is the most loved boy [or child? I think boy] in the Branch House', which I always found an ambiguous sentence; obviously it can refer to how much Neji's father/parents love him, but it can also mean that the Branch House as a whole loves Neji. And a plausible explanation or that would be that they noticed how talented he was. (I think the rest of what Hizashi says backs up this interpretation somewhat, but I don't have the manga with me, so I can't check).
I'd say that it's more like Hinata was set against the "normal" Hyuuga persona from birth.
I'm not sure I follow. I agree with Hinata having always been shy, but I don't see what you mean with the end of the sentence.
I don't think that sort of opinion sprang out from nowhere, so Hinata must have heard a lot of things with more or less the same meaning over the years.
Oh, I'm sure there were probably numerous attempts to turn Hinata into something more in line with Hyuuga "tradition". Once it became obvious that she would never stop being gentle and never live up to their standards, they abandoned her for Hanabi. Though, if Hanabi had never been born, I wouldn't be surprised if they had kept at her.
It probably didn't happen from the moment she was born - like you said, Hiashi didn't seem to act like an abusive father in the flashback.
There *is* also the scene where Hiashi is savagely bitching out three-year-old Hinata for her sloppy footwork, so it's obvious that he set (probably unfairly) high standards for Hinata and only started to ostracize her when it became obvious that she couldn't keep up.
Hinata never being able to please her father would certainly explain Kurenai's comment about how Hinata trained like mad, but always broke down and gave up if she ran into the slightest failure.
Otoh, in the flashback, Hizashi was still alive. It's possible that Hiashi, consciously or not, resents Hinata for being the indirect cause of his brother's death.
Yeah, I've always thought this myself, as it's extremely obvious that Hiashi has issues with a capital I with Hizashi and his death. Gee, Hinata just ends up as the focus of everyone else's unresolved angst, doesn't she? :)
Though, there's also the giant gaping plothole with Hiashi allowing Hinata to run around unsealed on missions where enemies could capture her and the Byakugan, which more or less spits in the face of Hizashi's sacrifice...but I put that down to Kishimoto being sloppy.
Or he compared her to Neji and saw Neji as superior. Or both.
Yeah, from what he tells Hanabi during the Chuunin exams, he knew Neji's talent well. OTOH, he was also completely stunned that he had the Kaiten, etc., so I wonder how much of a eye he was keeping on him, and how much of his knowledge came from indirect reports?
And even if Hiashi, at one point, was able or willing to look past Hinata's weakness/whatever, it's very possible that others did not.
Certainly, but it was probably a gradually escalating process--she wasn't hit with family disdain from the beginning, until Hanabi came along and showed her talent.
I'm thinking of the twins' father here, he seems like a charming man and it's obvious from the flashback that he still held a lot of weight in the Hyuuga.
That wasn't the twins' father, just a random Hyuuga elder. Their father's picture is just a black silhouette in the databook--if wrinkly guy was him, his picture would have been there instead. Their father's probably long dead, as I don't think Hiashi would be Head otherwise.
They finally added comment editing, so they can bloody well add long comment lengths too:
In Neji's flashback, his father tells him that 'he is the most loved boy [or child? I think boy] in the Branch House', which I always found an ambiguous sentence;
Is this from the anime? Because I just looked through the manga chapter that has Neji's flashback, and the only thing that Hizashi tells him is that he is "to live to protect her (Hinata)". Nothing about him being the most loved child: in fact, that sentence kinda contradicts Hizashi's later sentence to Hiashi, just before he leaves to die: "I've only shown my ugly side to Neji". That sentence kind of makes me wonder if Hizashi wasn't all that kind to Neji himself, though's most likely referring to his open hatred of the Main House.
I'm not sure I follow. I agree with Hinata having always been shy, but I don't see what you mean with the end of the sentence.
"Normal" Hyuuga=cold, pragmatic, unfeeling. The sort of personality that does what needs to be done and doesn't care about the suffering that might come with decisions (hi, curse seal). Neji's databook 2 entry says that he has a "Spartan" personality--he's extremely practical and completely ignores anything that he sees as unimportant.
Of course, this doesn't take timeskip Neji into account, but Neji's personality is much more in line with a "normal" Hyuuga than Hinata's is. One of the ways that Neji taunts Hinata during their fight is to say that she's a horrible shinobi because she's too gentle and avoids conflict. There are many ways you could describe the Hyuuga, but "gentle" is not one of them, and Hinata is definitely atypical in that respect.
Their first anniversary, Kabuto waits until he’s had his gift before informing her of the fact. It’s only after she throws up that she realises he may very well be lying.
Maybe it's just because I've got a tremendous headache + sleepiness, but I don't quite get what's going on in this one? Informs her of what fact?
Their second anniversay, Kabuto idly asks her how she feels about children. He watches her face turn a greenish, ashen shade before she scrambles out of the dining room, and he wonders if he wouldn’t like to make this into a tradition, while Orochimaru chuckles in the background.
Their third anniversary, Kabuto doesn’t come. (Hinata feels slightly nauseous.)
:O
If she's with him willingly, what on earth is she getting out of this, and if not, BASH HIM OVER THE HEAD AND BE DONE WITH IT Hinata, because you don't need this kind of grief (though if Oro's there, that complicates matters, but still). You killed him once already, you can do it again! Stand up for yourself!
(and if for some reason she intends to keep him, from one Hinata to another, mine had found that a big stick, a few chains and plenty of ultra-sharp kunai keep Kabuto pretty well in line, it's worth a try. XD)
Oh yeah, and the deal with their first anniversary is that he waited until after sex before springing up on her, 'btw it's totally been 365 days since the first time we fucked, just thought you might like to know :DDDDD', except, hum, probably not with these words.
Hmmm, but she's still disassociated enough from him to be disgusted and freaked out by him and the idea of having his child--I thought that typically Stockholm victims more or less submerge themselves into their captors/abusers...?
Oh yeah, and the deal with their first anniversary is that he waited until after sex before springing up on her, 'btw it's totally been 365 days since the first time we fucked, just thought you might like to know :DDDDD', except, hum, probably not with these words.
Kabuto, you and your lamentable sense of romance. *shakes head* And so not surprised he'd keep track of something like that.
*will comment on the lovely nejihina smut later--must go to sleep now. ;-;
In fact and as much as it shames me as a writer to admit to this... I dreadfully over-simplified the issue. As in, I knew I had only the vaguest idea of what was the KabuHina situation in this, but the words really really insisted upon being written. So yeah, that's one case where I've blatantly valued prettiness of words over meaning.
...Okay, I'll try to put into words how I was imagining it as I was writing (because I always need some sort of mental justification.)
I think Hinata is disgusted by herself more than anything - that she's never actually lost her sense of self enough to make everything morally conscionable. It was the case for their first anniversary; she was repulsed by herself because she had let herself live like this for one year without even counting the days (and probably it was then that she realized she hadn't seriously thought about running away in a long while).
For their second anniversary, she's repulseed by herself because the way she sees it when Kabuto asks is that he's asking. He thinks she could agree. He sees her as the sort of person who would maybe say yes. She doesn't think at all that he might just be asking that precisely to freak her out - which is what Orochimaru spots all at once, and that's the reason why he's laughing.
In my mind, this scene is very much like a familial dinner, except that it's all dysfunctional. Up until that point, Hinata has always seen herself as Kabuto's toy - as a victim. When he asks, she suddenly thinks that she is condoning her situation.
Also, Kabuto is mostly making fun of her here. I don't doubt he's interested in her reaction, but he doesn't actually mean the question one hundred percent. In spite of what Hinata is thinking at that moment, she has very little choice; and that's why Orochimaru is chuckling the most delightful part is to make the victim into the one responsible for what is happening to her.
Kabuto, you and your lamentable sense of romance.
>_> here it's less romance and more trying to drive the nice little Hyuuga girl mad and make her freak out - she's so cute when she does! (I think my Kabuto may be more of a bastard than yours.) But he's not lying when he tells her about the date, though. (It's more fun if it's true, I think he thinks.)
I have no idea (read: way too many theories to settle on just one explanation) what's up with the third anniversary. Kabuto got killed, or Hinata is back in Konoha, or he's just playing with her...
...Okay, I'll try to put into words how I was imagining it as I was writing (because I always need some sort of mental justification.)
*snip lots of good reasoning*
Ah, poor Hinata. I could definitely see things going like that, since from what I've heard (not that it would likely make her feel any better) it's pretty normal to "settle" into a kind of life under circumstances like the above (and she's been with him long enough for that to be the case though I also presume running away isn't terribly feasible or would carry horrific consequences if she was caught). Unfortunately for her, Kabuto's poking at the one place that would do the most damage: I guess he was getting bored, eh?
>_> here it's less romance and more trying to drive the nice little Hyuuga girl mad and make her freak out - she's so cute when she does!
Hee, I was kidding on the romance part. :D Though I doubt he'd stay interested once he managed to drive her completely around the bend--unless he'd think that she'd be even cuter then...
(I think my Kabuto may be more of a bastard than yours.)
Ayup, looks like it. ;)
Not that my Kabuto has any qualms about torturing Hinata or mindfucking her either *eyes slide over slowly to still unfinished Muma chapter and the next several after it* but he doesn't want to break her utterly, because 1. for him, it would be too damn easy and crazy people have limited appeal for him--broken toys are useless and the games he plays with Hinata only work if she's sane--
2. he's surrounded by enough insanity--he can tell that Oro's sliding over the edge Sasuke, whut and it's only a matter of time before he comes apart completely, which does not make him happy--and he doesn't particularly want another lunatic on his hands (more work for him).
I will also say that the only part of the Kabumaru debacle that I didn't want to light on fire and throw out a 70-story window was the bit where (assuming that he wasn't lying through his teeth) Kabuto said how lonely and alienated he's always been. So there's that too.
But he's not lying when he tells her about the date, though. (It's more fun if it's true, I think he thinks.)
Honestly, I'm just surprised that he didn't give her the time down to the second. HE PROBABLY KNOWS IT TOO. ;)
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Date: 2007-10-24 01:11 am (UTC)Glad you liked! ...want another go? >_>
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Date: 2007-10-24 07:54 pm (UTC)(I don't give up on my mad ships easily. XD)
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Date: 2007-10-31 09:13 am (UTC)Hinata, on her fifteenth birthday:
From her sister, a string of tiny mutlicoloured beads Hanabi made herself.
From Ino, a mirror, a shopping trip, and a heavy make-out session in the fitting cabine.
From Neji, a fight, but this time he’s the one asking if she’s willing.
Kabuto:
- Kabuto’s adoptive father celebrates the day he took him to Konoha, as if Kabuto never existed out of it.
- Sasori sends Kabuto annual updates on the situation out of Kabuto’s immediate circle on the day he recruited Kabuto to Akatsuki.
- Orochimaru, on the day he turned Kabuto to him, looks smugger than usual.
Kabuto thinks nothing of it except the sardonic amusement he did on the other occasions, until the moment, picking up a slip of paper that has fallen to the ground by Orochimaru’s desk, he sees his birthdate sprawled onto the ivory parchment.
He looks up into Orochimaru’s dancing slit eyes, and he reaches the sensible decision; deliberately, he tears the paper into uneven parts, and lets them fall back to the ground. Then, without taking his eyes away from Orochimaru’s, he threads his fingers in his maste’s hair.
Orochimaru’s smile widens.
KabuHina:
Their first anniversary, Kabuto waits until he’s had his gift before informing her of the fact. It’s only after she throws up that she realises he may very well be lying.
Their second anniversay, Kabuto idly asks her how she feels about children. He watches her face turn a greenish, ashen shade before she scrambles out of the dining room, and he wonders if he wouldn’t like to make this into a tradition, while Orochimaru chuckles in the background.
Their third anniversary, Kabuto doesn’t come. (Hinata feels slightly nauseous.)
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Date: 2007-11-02 06:34 am (UTC)From Ino, a mirror, a shopping trip, and a heavy make-out session in the fitting cabine.
Oh Ino! I desperately want to hear more about the circumstances of this. XD
He looks up into Orochimaru’s dancing slit eyes, and he reaches the sensible decision; deliberately, he tears the paper into uneven parts, and lets them fall back to the ground. Then, without taking his eyes away from Orochimaru’s, he threads his fingers in his maste’s hair.
::shiver:: No idea what's going on but sweet Jesus!
And children. Bloody children. This is turning into Rosemary's Baby and the anti-Christ all over again!
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Date: 2007-11-05 11:07 am (UTC)...I'll see if I can make a quick ficlet out of the scenes I have in my head. (Mostly it had to do with Ino trying to build Hinata's self-confidence up, though the make-out session was not planned.)
OroKabu thingie: I was thinking in terms of symbolism of birthdates blahblah and Kabuto rejecting his real birthdate as a symbol for the one Orochimaru made him his servant, and so becoming purely Orochimaru's creature.
Thought: Kabuto acts on it by pulling a move on Orochimaru, who just made his get born as his. Symbolical incest. 0_0
KabuHina kids: but she's so easy to TERRORISE with eeeeeeet.
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Date: 2007-11-06 04:21 am (UTC)hey, i'll have you know that all of the kabukids in my crackverse are fairly well-adjusted and sweet, despite being kabuto spawn :DThere is a chance, however tiny, that anything springing from Kabuto's loins might not be entirely psychotic. Maybe. If the planets align correctly and the atmospheric conditions are favorable, perhaps.Think of it this way: Hinata comes from a long line of people who think slavery and the ability to melt people's minds on a whim is just fine and dandy and look how she turned out. :D
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Date: 2007-11-07 03:06 pm (UTC)That may have been because said family didn't want anything to do with her, though.
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Date: 2007-11-08 05:14 am (UTC)So Hinata probably had about a decade before the Hyuuga collectively threw their hands up in disgust and said "she's useless, get her out of our sight" and since we see from Neji's flashback to her at three that she's always been timid and soft-natured (and Hiashi let her hide and cling to him then, not something a completely stern father would do) I'd say that it's more like Hinata was set against the "normal" Hyuuga persona from birth.
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Date: 2007-11-08 04:11 pm (UTC)And even if Hiashi, at one point, was able or willing to look past Hinata's weakness/whatever, it's very possible that others did not. I'm thinking of the twins' father here, he seems like a charming man and it's obvious from the flashback that he still held a lot of weight in the Hyuuga.
In Neji's flashback, his father tells him that 'he is the most loved boy [or child? I think boy] in the Branch House', which I always found an ambiguous sentence; obviously it can refer to how much Neji's father/parents love him, but it can also mean that the Branch House as a whole loves Neji. And a plausible explanation or that would be that they noticed how talented he was. (I think the rest of what Hizashi says backs up this interpretation somewhat, but I don't have the manga with me, so I can't check).
I'd say that it's more like Hinata was set against the "normal" Hyuuga persona from birth.
I'm not sure I follow. I agree with Hinata having always been shy, but I don't see what you mean with the end of the sentence.
wow, tl;dr. Sorry about this...
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Date: 2007-11-12 10:26 pm (UTC)I don't think that sort of opinion sprang out from nowhere, so Hinata must have heard a lot of things with more or less the same meaning over the years.
Oh, I'm sure there were probably numerous attempts to turn Hinata into something more in line with Hyuuga "tradition". Once it became obvious that she would never stop being gentle and never live up to their standards, they abandoned her for Hanabi. Though, if Hanabi had never been born, I wouldn't be surprised if they had kept at her.
It probably didn't happen from the moment she was born - like you said, Hiashi didn't seem to act like an abusive father in the flashback.
There *is* also the scene where Hiashi is savagely bitching out three-year-old Hinata for her sloppy footwork, so it's obvious that he set (probably unfairly) high standards for Hinata and only started to ostracize her when it became obvious that she couldn't keep up.
Hinata never being able to please her father would certainly explain Kurenai's comment about how Hinata trained like mad, but always broke down and gave up if she ran into the slightest failure.
Otoh, in the flashback, Hizashi was still alive. It's possible that Hiashi, consciously or not, resents Hinata for being the indirect cause of his brother's death.
Yeah, I've always thought this myself, as it's extremely obvious that Hiashi has issues with a capital I with Hizashi and his death. Gee, Hinata just ends up as the focus of everyone else's unresolved angst, doesn't she? :)
Though, there's also the giant gaping plothole with Hiashi allowing Hinata to run around unsealed on missions where enemies could capture her and the Byakugan, which more or less spits in the face of Hizashi's sacrifice...but I put that down to Kishimoto being sloppy.
Or he compared her to Neji and saw Neji as superior. Or both.
Yeah, from what he tells Hanabi during the Chuunin exams, he knew Neji's talent well. OTOH, he was also completely stunned that he had the Kaiten, etc., so I wonder how much of a eye he was keeping on him, and how much of his knowledge came from indirect reports?
And even if Hiashi, at one point, was able or willing to look past Hinata's weakness/whatever, it's very possible that others did not.
Certainly, but it was probably a gradually escalating process--she wasn't hit with family disdain from the beginning, until Hanabi came along and showed her talent.
I'm thinking of the twins' father here, he seems like a charming man and it's obvious from the flashback that he still held a lot of weight in the Hyuuga.
That wasn't the twins' father, just a random Hyuuga elder. Their father's picture is just a black silhouette in the databook--if wrinkly guy was him, his picture would have been there instead. Their father's probably long dead, as I don't think Hiashi would be Head otherwise.
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Date: 2007-11-12 10:27 pm (UTC)In Neji's flashback, his father tells him that 'he is the most loved boy [or child? I think boy] in the Branch House', which I always found an ambiguous sentence;
Is this from the anime? Because I just looked through the manga chapter that has Neji's flashback, and the only thing that Hizashi tells him is that he is "to live to protect her (Hinata)". Nothing about him being the most loved child: in fact, that sentence kinda contradicts Hizashi's later sentence to Hiashi, just before he leaves to die: "I've only shown my ugly side to Neji". That sentence kind of makes me wonder if Hizashi wasn't all that kind to Neji himself, though's most likely referring to his open hatred of the Main House.
I'm not sure I follow. I agree with Hinata having always been shy, but I don't see what you mean with the end of the sentence.
"Normal" Hyuuga=cold, pragmatic, unfeeling. The sort of personality that does what needs to be done and doesn't care about the suffering that might come with decisions (hi, curse seal). Neji's databook 2 entry says that he has a "Spartan" personality--he's extremely practical and completely ignores anything that he sees as unimportant.
Of course, this doesn't take timeskip Neji into account, but Neji's personality is much more in line with a "normal" Hyuuga than Hinata's is. One of the ways that Neji taunts Hinata during their fight is to say that she's a horrible shinobi because she's too gentle and avoids conflict. There are many ways you could describe the Hyuuga, but "gentle" is not one of them, and Hinata is definitely atypical in that respect.
wow, tl;dr. Sorry about this...
I like long posts. :D
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Date: 2007-11-12 10:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-11-06 04:25 am (UTC)Oh Ino! I desperately want to hear more about the circumstances of this. XD
I HEARTILY ENDORSE THIS AS WELL.
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Date: 2007-11-06 04:14 am (UTC)Their first anniversary, Kabuto waits until he’s had his gift before informing her of the fact. It’s only after she throws up that she realises he may very well be lying.
Maybe it's just because I've got a tremendous headache + sleepiness, but I don't quite get what's going on in this one? Informs her of what fact?
Their second anniversay, Kabuto idly asks her how she feels about children. He watches her face turn a greenish, ashen shade before she scrambles out of the dining room, and he wonders if he wouldn’t like to make this into a tradition, while Orochimaru chuckles in the background.
Their third anniversary, Kabuto doesn’t come. (Hinata feels slightly nauseous.)
:O
If she's with him willingly, what on earth is she getting out of this, and if not, BASH HIM OVER THE HEAD AND BE DONE WITH IT Hinata, because you don't need this kind of grief (though if Oro's there, that complicates matters, but still). You killed him once already, you can do it again! Stand up for yourself!
(and if for some reason she intends to keep him, from one Hinata to another, mine had found that a big stick, a few chains and plenty of ultra-sharp kunai keep Kabuto pretty well in line, it's worth a try. XD)
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Date: 2007-11-07 03:13 pm (UTC)OneTwo words: Stockholm Syndrom.Oh yeah, and the deal with their first anniversary is that he waited until after sex before springing up on her, 'btw it's totally been 365 days since the first time we fucked, just thought you might like to know :DDDDD', except, hum, probably not with these words.
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Date: 2007-11-08 05:29 am (UTC)Hmmm, but she's still disassociated enough from him to be disgusted and freaked out by him and the idea of having his child--I thought that typically Stockholm victims more or less submerge themselves into their captors/abusers...?
Oh yeah, and the deal with their first anniversary is that he waited until after sex before springing up on her, 'btw it's totally been 365 days since the first time we fucked, just thought you might like to know :DDDDD', except, hum, probably not with these words.
Kabuto, you and your lamentable sense of romance. *shakes head* And so not surprised he'd keep track of something like that.
*will comment on the lovely nejihina smut later--must go to sleep now. ;-;
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Date: 2007-11-08 04:39 pm (UTC)and as much as it shames me as a writer to admit to this...I dreadfully over-simplified the issue. As in, I knew I had only the vaguest idea of what was the KabuHina situation in this, but the words really really insisted upon being written. So yeah, that's one case where I've blatantly valued prettiness of words over meaning....Okay, I'll try to put into words how I was imagining it as I was writing (because I always need some sort of mental justification.)
I think Hinata is disgusted by herself more than anything - that she's never actually lost her sense of self enough to make everything morally conscionable. It was the case for their first anniversary; she was repulsed by herself because she had let herself live like this for one year without even counting the days (and probably it was then that she realized she hadn't seriously thought about running away in a long while).
For their second anniversary, she's repulseed by herself because the way she sees it when Kabuto asks is that he's asking. He thinks she could agree. He sees her as the sort of person who would maybe say yes. She doesn't think at all that he might just be asking that precisely to freak her out - which is what Orochimaru spots all at once, and that's the reason why he's laughing.
In my mind, this scene is very much like a familial dinner, except that it's all dysfunctional. Up until that point, Hinata has always seen herself as Kabuto's toy - as a victim. When he asks, she suddenly thinks that she is condoning her situation.
Also, Kabuto is mostly making fun of her here. I don't doubt he's interested in her reaction, but he doesn't actually mean the question one hundred percent. In spite of what Hinata is thinking at that moment, she has very little choice; and that's why Orochimaru is chuckling the most delightful part is to make the victim into the one responsible for what is happening to her.
Kabuto, you and your lamentable sense of romance.
>_> here it's less romance and more trying to drive the nice little Hyuuga girl mad and make her freak out - she's so cute when she does! (I think my Kabuto may be more of a bastard than yours.) But he's not lying when he tells her about the date, though. (It's more fun if it's true, I think he thinks.)
I have no idea (read: way too many theories to settle on just one explanation) what's up with the third anniversary. Kabuto got killed, or Hinata is back in Konoha, or he's just playing with her...
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Date: 2007-11-12 11:15 pm (UTC)*snip lots of good reasoning*
Ah, poor Hinata. I could definitely see things going like that, since from what I've heard (not that it would likely make her feel any better) it's pretty normal to "settle" into a kind of life under circumstances like the above (and she's been with him long enough for that to be the case though I also presume running away isn't terribly feasible or would carry horrific consequences if she was caught). Unfortunately for her, Kabuto's poking at the one place that would do the most damage: I guess he was getting bored, eh?
>_> here it's less romance and more trying to drive the nice little Hyuuga girl mad and make her freak out - she's so cute when she does!
Hee, I was kidding on the romance part. :D Though I doubt he'd stay interested once he managed to drive her completely around the bend--unless he'd think that she'd be even cuter then...
(I think my Kabuto may be more of a bastard than yours.)
Ayup, looks like it. ;)
Not that my Kabuto has any qualms about torturing Hinata or mindfucking her either *eyes slide over slowly to still unfinished Muma chapter and the next several after it* but he doesn't want to break her utterly, because 1. for him, it would be too damn easy and crazy people have limited appeal for him--broken toys are useless and the games he plays with Hinata only work if she's sane--
2. he's surrounded by enough insanity--he can tell that Oro's sliding over the edge
Sasuke, whutand it's only a matter of time before he comes apart completely, which does not make him happy--and he doesn't particularly want another lunatic on his hands (more work for him).I will also say that the only part of the Kabumaru debacle that I didn't want to light on fire and throw out a 70-story window was the bit where (assuming that he wasn't lying through his teeth) Kabuto said how lonely and alienated he's always been. So there's that too.
But he's not lying when he tells her about the date, though. (It's more fun if it's true, I think he thinks.)
Honestly, I'm just surprised that he didn't give her the time down to the second. HE PROBABLY KNOWS IT TOO. ;)