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1. Ozai (Avatar the Last Airbender)

Being the worst possible dad isn't a contest, but that man approached it as if he intended to make sure the competition would be destroyed for all times and never rise from the ashes of their humiliation.

Cases in point: back when they were at their happiest, Zuko was scared into thinking his father might kill him because his father ordered him to. This is Ozai at his best; from there, it all goes downhill into forcing his thirteen-year old son to duel him for speaking out of turn, permanently scarring him, kicking him out and on a wild goose chase. And Zuko got off easy. After all, at one point he does realize that his father is a horrible man and that, more importantly, he doesn't love Zuko.

And the worst part? Zuko is the one that got off easy. The favoured child, Azula, who was as intent as her brother on making daddy proud but more successful, got her reward in the shape of the title of "Fire Lord" that Ozai threw at her like scraps to a dog when he moved to "Pheonix King".

2. God (the Bible)

On the subject of distant fathers that demand sacrifices.

3. Chronos Ouranos (Greek mythology)

Eating one's children. That's pretty damn bad. Zeus gets a pass because I can't put the two of them on this list and Chronos Ouranos came first. That's okay, Zeus would probably be on the list of top five worst fictional husbands.

Edited because I am a moron and Etrangere was good enough to point out that I was sadly mythtaken.

4. David Cain (DC Comics)

Maybe it's just me, but I think the most terrible thing about Cain is that, unlike others on this list, he genuinely loves his daughter. She's the most precious thing in his life, or just about.

And he doesn't consider what he did to her abuse.

5. Slade Wilson (DC Comics)

Not sure about this one, but I'm suddenly out of convincing worst-fathers-ever (? how can it be, when the world of fiction is just made of worst-dads-ever?) and I was just telling [livejournal.com profile] etrangere how reallyreallyreally fucked up as a father Slade is.

He loves his children and he wants what's best for them, even if that involves joining the Titans, but he's never above using the hell out of them. He also did horrible things to them.

Bonus: Spencer Reid's father (Criminal Minds)

Leaving your wife because you can't take her mental illness is entirely within your rights. I respect your right to lead your own life, and I respect your right to get out if you're in a situation that is damaging to yourself.

Leaving your ten-year-old kid with someone you think can't take care of herself anymore?...

DIE MOTHERFUCKER.

Edited again because I had to add Hyuuga Hiashi (Naruto) on this list. I forgot him yesterday, but I don't know how I did it, as he's definitely one of the top five to me.

Hiashi is such a terrible father it pains me to have to select an adjective at the risk of sounding hyperbolic, and he in no way, shape, or form reaches redemption as far as Hinata is concerned.

Date: 2011-06-17 11:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q99.livejournal.com
I got the impression she had human *contact* in good amounts, just no *speech*. He was always there for her, without question.

It's a slanted, weird way of growing up, but if you look at them interact in the flashbacks, you can see "this is not a girl deprived of human relations."

And I think that's why she wasn't traumatized by the training. Cain was always there for her, physically and emotionally, and she knew it to the core.

Date: 2011-06-17 11:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.livejournal.com
No speech from anyone, ever. That means a heavily monitored environment and no spontaneous contact with people who weren't commissioned by her father. Her idea of childhood games was trying to keep from crying out when she was shot, she didn't have any playmates other than him.

Cain was always there for her, physically and emotionally, and she knew it to the core.
I agree, but he was the only thing she had; and he (I'm coming back to this, sorry) kept her brain from developing normally.

Date: 2011-06-18 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] q99.livejournal.com
-No speech from anyone, ever. That means a heavily monitored environment and no spontaneous contact with people who weren't commissioned by her father.-

Yea, but some of the other people who Cain knew could be trusted to follow that and communicate in body language only. Like Bronze Tiger, for example.

- and he (I'm coming back to this, sorry) kept her brain from developing normally.-

In a way that gave back (body reading) as well as took (speech).

I mean, don't get me wrong, it's horrible, I just don't find it *as* horrible.

Date: 2011-06-18 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] runespoor7.livejournal.com
Still not great socialization.

In a way that gave back (body reading) as well as took (speech).

I think I'm going to side with Babs on that one. He made her so that, bar meta intervention, she could not have a normal life or fit into normal society ever. The only way for Cass to belong somewhere was with him, or as Batgirl. And by Batgirl I mean "Batman's double".

Like I said, I'm biased: but mostly it hangs on the issue that Cain loves her and thought that he was doing it for her own good. Or found a way to justify it. It's more threatening than malice or manipulation to me; at least I know I can defend myself against that. How do I defend myself against good intentions and selective blindness?

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