Random question - HP/SS related

[runespoor]

Okay, so it probably doesn't show much, but HP/SS is one of my OTPs (yes, I'm one of these multiple-OTP kind of person. Not only am I picky and intolerant, I am also obsessive-compulsive. Or something.) and I've read, huh, many, many, many fics about that ship. (Not enough, alas, but there are only so many hours in a day.)

So here's my question: where are the HP/SS fics from Snape's PoV? Does that even exist? If it does, can anyone send me a link?

That's almost like why-are-there-so-little-Snape-going-after-Harry-fics. (But I've experimented some first hand, so I know that exist.)

I wonder if it has anything to do with us, HP/SS writers. (I'm counting myself in because I say so. Dinosaur privilege and all that. The fics never got finished, I am well aware of that.) Could it be because we can identify more with Harry when he's lusting-after/looking-up-to/call-it-what-you-want Snape than the reverse? I imagine the question I'm more or less dancing around is: aren't we more attracted by Snape than we are by Harry? And yet it's not true. Every good fic provides good reasons for Snape's feelings for Harry. That's why they're good. (That may also be that I'm an easily contented reader and I like my happy ending just as much as your next fangirl after my angst, but I won't begin second-guessing myself.)

Just lookin' if anyone knows where I could read such fics.

Comments

[djinnj.livejournal.com]

Here's 3 I've been reading and re-reading, they are all 3rd person limited from Snape's POV:
So Lonely Without Me (http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=5658) by caligryphy
The Dreaming Spires (http://archive.skyehawke.com/story.php?no=4559) by dementordelta
The Familiar (http://trickster.org/res/familiar.html) by Resonant (resonant8)

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Thank you!

[ptyx.livejournal.com]

Well, there are many stories where the PoV changes from part to part. But if you want stories where the PoV is exclusively Snape's, I can mention Severus and the Crup (http://www.angelfire.com/zine2/josan/hp/crup.html), by Josan; A Necessary Evil (http://www.squidge.org/%7Ekali/ane.html), by Kai; Frogs and Snails and Puppy Dog Tails (http://www.lastchancehouse.com/fiction/frogsandsnails.html), by Llama; Disarmed (http://luthien.ebonyx.org/docs/fic/index.html), by Luthien, and Recognition (http://nym.amplexus.org/HPrecognition.html) by Nym, just to name a few.

Pimping myself: "Not So Bad", "Your Mystery", "Epiphany", "The Only Witchcraft" and "In Your Dreams", are all written from Snape's PoV. You can find them here (http://ptyx.noigandres.com/ffing.html).

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

(Which just goes to show that I don't look half hard enough, but nevermind.)

Mmh. *purrs* *goes off to read*

[ac1d6urn.livejournal.com]

Wasn't Cybele's If You Are Prepared trilogy told mostly from Snape's POV?

*raises hand* I'm attempting to write an HP/SS fic from Snape's POV right now but not going to link to it just yet since I only posted chapter 3 of 20.

I think a lot of it comes from JKR using Harry's POV in the books. The voice is already established and easier to write.

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

IYAP may be from Snape's PoV, but... *shudders* I have a long history of Not Managing to Read IYAP. Mostly because I am not, when it comes to Uber!Angst! *whimpers*

Okay. I'll go and read it once there are less chances of me going waa because there'd have been a cliffhanger. *notes to self*

Yes, but otoh, plenty of writers change Harry's voice, if they age him or make him go dark or such. I see what you mean though.

[luthien.livejournal.com]

Others have mentioned a few of the ones I first thought of, but, off the top of my head, there's also Telanu's 'Coffee' series, and 'Noise', which can all be found on her site (http://www.amplexus.org/~telanu/), and 'Sins of Omission' by Nym, which can usually be found at http://hp.pfen.net (but that archive is down for the moment.) And another of my stories, 'Compulsion' is Snape POV, too.

Could it be because we can identify more with Harry when he's lusting-after/looking-up-to/call-it-what-you-want Snape than the reverse? I imagine the question I'm more or less dancing around is: aren't we more attracted by Snape than we are by Harry?

Speaking just for myself, no, not really, though I've certainly seen this theory put forward before in relation to pairings in other fandoms: the idea that we're less likely to write from the point of view of the character we lust after the most. That could be true for some writers, but not for me, I think because I mostly get interested in psychology and emotions when I write, and those can be explored in different ways through the point of view of either character in a pairing.

My story 'Disarmed' could only have been written from Snape's pov because the whole point of the story is his perception of and reaction to the events of the story, rather than the events themselves. I wrote a follow-up from Harry's point of view mainly to look at that particular relationship through Harry's eyes.

Being in Snape's head is a very different experience from being in Harry's head, and they bring very different things to a story as point of view characters. Snape's vocabulary is a lot more extensive than Harry's, for one thing. I find writing Harry pov more difficult, in some ways, because I have to keep the language simpler. Snape, otoh, often gets really wordy, and it can be very difficult to stop all that internal verbal diarrhoea that he likes to indulge in.

I like being in Harry's head because Snape is my favourite character and I like to explore Snape via Harry's perspective. However, I also like being in Snape's head *because* he's my favourite character, even though writing him drives me up the wall at times. Er, I suppose it's just all about Snape for me. *g*

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

I mostly get interested in psychology and emotions when I write, and those can be explored in different ways through the point of view of either character in a pairing.

I agree with that, which is mostly why I find rather odd that the statistics are so disproportionately in favour of Harry's PoV.

I find writing Harry pov more difficult, in some ways, because I have to keep the language simpler. Snape, otoh, often gets really wordy, and it can be very difficult to stop all that internal verbal diarrhoea that he likes to indulge in.

Oh, WORD. That's something I've noticed in many Harry-goes-dark (or fark grey, at any rate) fics: his vocabulary extends. In fact, in the only HP/SS fic I went halfway through, I did exactly the same thing.

Er, I suppose it's just all about Snape for me.

If that makes us get more fics from you, you won't hear me complaint. ;)

Snape POV

[djin7.livejournal.com]

aren't we more attracted by Snape than we are by Harry?

I think that Harry IS the real reason we all read HP, no?
Putting our much maligned hero together with Snape just adds all that much more angst. What I mean to say is, if we weren't all closet 'romantic knight-in-shining-armour, but only after losing all that is dear' types, we wouldn't even be involved in HP. Snape is an afterthought, and a malleable one at that. As he is so one dimensional in canon, we can play with him all we want. *Your Snape* can be anything you want him to be. Sarcastic, snarky, intelligent, vicious, powerful, sex god, secret heart of gold, name your poison. That much freedom can be intimidating, and so the 'safer' route is to write Harry's POV, as it has already been established in canon. We all *know* how Harry thinks, and you can just build on it.
Personally, I prefer Snape's POV, everyone writes him slightly differently in Snarry.
There are alot of Snape, or both Snape/Harry POV's out there.
Enjoy them, I sure have!
Cheers!
DJIN7

Re: Snape POV

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

I think that Harry IS the real reason we all read HP, no?

It isn't, or at least, it isn't for me. As far as I'm concerned, HP is about so much more than Harry; I'd even go so far as to say that I'm in the fandom to see things that aren't Harry (or, in the case of HP/SS, to see things that will not happen in HP.) Which doesn't make much sense, but there you go...

I don't see Canon!Snape as one-dimensional; to me, he's one of the less one-dimensional characters of the books. (the others being, at least, Remus and Dumbledore - that last because there's only so much authorial intent I can take before making up my own opinion.)

so the 'safer' route is to write Harry's POV, as it has already been established in canon.

I see what you mean, but I'm of the mind that any Harry in any HP/SS is necessarily somehow OOC. (No, don't scream.) What I mean is, his attraction to Snape is generally explained away as 'at first I thought it was just hatred, and then I realised that my obsession was bound to be partly something else, especially since I started responding physically to your voice', which I can absolutely accept and believe, but I can't read canon with that in mind. Which says a lot more about me than about HP/SS fics, in fact.

Oh, well. Thanks for dropping in!

Re: Snape POV

[djin7.livejournal.com]

What I was trying to say earlier was that originally we all picked up the books for some reason. As a fan of the occult and sci-fi fantasy, it appealed on that level. But almost all sci-fi/fantasy has a clear hero and his/her trials to achieve their destiny/happiness. I'm just saying there's a pattern there.
The books are all written from Harry's POV, which is that of a young person, therefore one dimensional in my opinion. Harry can only speculate about Snape, but is too busy hating him to care what Snape does/feels/is. That doesn't mean that JKR can't make him interesting, it just means there is a lot about Snape we don't know, because Harry does not care to know, hence the incredible fanon descriptions of him. You can make him anything you like.

Personally, I want Snape to be exactly like a half dozen fandom characterizations written out there. Telanu, Cybele, Sushi, IGTOW, Dementordelta, Shadowphoenix, I could go on and on. I want to know their *Severus'*.

Thanks for having me!
Cheers!
DJIN7

Re: Snape POV

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Okay, I think I get what you mean about Snape. (And may I say how much I agree with you on fandom characterisations?)

About why we went to read HP: I can't speak for everyone, but I know I wanted to know what the fuss was all about, what with PoA getting published an' all. I liked PS; then I read CoS and PoA and something must have clinched because I haven't left the fandom ever since. At the time, it had rather less to do with Harry and more with scenes that played directly behind my eyelids and tickled all my kinks, such as the final confrontations between Harry and Riddle, Sirius yelling at Pettigrew and Lupin getting ready for murder... Well, drama really.

Fics from Snape's POV

[ook.livejournal.com]

Mind Games by arsenicjade
Complete, NC-17
http://www.mediageek.ca/arsenicjade/writing/mind.html

The Sorcerer's Apprentice by jacquez
WIP, Rating: PG (but it's one of the best Snape/Harry fics I've ever read)
http://www.dementia.org/~jacquez/writing/hpfic/sorcerers_apprentice/index2.html

The San Francisco Effect by tayefeth
WIP, NC-17, Older!Harry
http://www.livejournal.com/tools/memories.bml?keyword=TheSanFranciscoEffect&user=tayefeth&sortby=des

For some reason, most fics seem to have Harry going after Snape. Fics where Snape goes after Harry seem as rare as fics where Snape bottoms for Harry. Something about the power dynamic between characters of such a major age difference, I guess.

Re: Fics from Snape's POV

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Something about the power dynamic between characters of such a major age difference, I guess.

Yes, I imagine so, too.

Thanks for the recs and the links!

[meine-liebe.livejournal.com]

Dolce Tesoro by Cyane Snape http://www.thesilversnitch.net/fic/viewstory.php?sid=4883

A bit of alright by I got tired of waiting @ ETC archive

All I have to offer by Linelen @ snape fest

Ghost Written Romance by Cluegirl @ skyhawke

To have and to hold by MontanaDan @ skyhawke

those are my favs =)
shameless plug my self: I wrote "A not so fairytale" (done but unbeta-ed unfortunately)

[phoenix-starr.livejournal.com]

:) montanadan also has a LJ with the story posted

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

All right, thanks!

[leni-jess.livejournal.com]

Most by other writers I could list have all been provided already! However...

Rushlight has not long finished Walking the Mirror's Edge (on her LJ), the Snape POV version of her Through a Shattered Mirror (at
http://slashcity.org/rushlight/mirror.htm).

Then there's Diana Williams's A Better Offer and its sequel The Unhappiest Potions Master on Earth, which are comedy. Both on her website, http://diana.slashcity.com.

For an AU, try LinW (Nesting Hedwig)'s The Perfect Wife at http://www.kardasi.com/HPSS/Wave-4/linw_wife.htm, for which you need a password; to get it join the Kardasi-security y!group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/kardasi-security/).

Chamaeleo wrote Unnatural - Expanded, which is Snape's POV version of the original story by Lexin and Tidmag (Unnatural). Now where are they - the original can now be found on Detention (http://individum.com/snarry/fiction/000344.php); maybe try Ink Stained fingers for the other?

I wrote one myself, Master and Man, which is both Snape's POV and Snape going after Harry (in a very Slytherin don't-put-the-blame-on-me way, of course). See my Skyehawke page http://www.skyehawke.com/archive/authors.php?no=427. You'll find Alliance there too, where Snape's POV alternates with Harry's in separate episodes.

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Mmh, recs and links... I've read some of them (and loved A Better Offer) but I think it's time I reread them.

Thank you very much!

[tipgardner.livejournal.com]

It's not by any means a lengthy, chaptered fic, but I wrote a pornographic one shot with incest from Snape's PoV (obviously the incest element in not the Snarry element). I hope you'll enjoy it:

Non-con, NC-17, Snarry, SS/HP, LM/DM, SS/LM (http://www.livejournal.com/users/tipgardner/28626.html).

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Thanks, I'll go and have a read at it one day I can trust myself to stomach the non-con part... (I have a weak stomach. Shut up.) ;)

[tipgardner.livejournal.com]

No worries. That's why it's marked as it is. It could be a pretty squicky piece for those who don't like incest, non-con, etc. But it's reasonably short. If you do get to it, I hope that you enjoy it.

[runespoor7.livejournal.com]

Oh, I'm not always squicked by non-con. There are days when I'll haul myself at amanuensis1's stuff. (and then go through my day feeling numb, but that's quite another thing.) One of those days, I'll be sure to read your fic.

[tipgardner.livejournal.com]

Oh, I should probably add, that although I don't think I have other Snarry bits, I do have other Snape stories from his point of view. One or two with Lucius and one with fruit (don't ask!).