Well, technically I am lying down with my computer, because I'm over at a place where there is Internet, and I should be sleeping, or at the least reading happyfic, but nope. Upset and worrying about fandom's interpretation of a character.
In Batwoman #2, Batman and Batwoman cross paths, and he tells her that if her enemy is obsessed with her she should be careful to keep Flamebird away from the Big Bad, because "Murdered sidekicks have a tendency to come back from the dead. As supervillains."
Which is so OOC for Bruce that I would've just laughed if not for the way mosty everyone is jumping on Bruce being the actual worst.
Like Bruce would ever refer to Jason in such a vallous way. Like he'd ever make Jason into a cautionay tale for mentors. Like he ever brings Jason up so easily.
And basically I'm sick and tired of the way when Bruce gets badly written, it means he's a
aah. Yes, it did strike me as OOC for Bruce. Wayyy too flippant. I thought it might have been supposed to be Dick!Batman maybe, when it was written, or something.
Which is still Nightwing:OYL-level characterization for Dick, but less offensive, but hey, it's actually the line that made some people realize it was Bruce in the cowl. ;_;
Ergo: why I should know better than read anything Bruce-related on Tumblr, where every day is Bruce Is A Horrible Person Day. With the exception of a handful of people, it feels like.
Well, I bet while some people are very vocal about not liking him, he has much more fans than otherwise. I mean, he is one of the, if not the, most popular superhero out there :)
You have no idea how many times I've gone into Batman Is Not A Jerk mode at a comics shop. (If I were a Superman fan, I'd be going into Superman Is Not Boring mode as often, I think.) ;)
Fandom is all about the caring, that's what makes it fandom.
At a comics shops? Ooooh, that must be fun (or very unfun, I'm not sure).
Haha, yeah, I bet Superman fans get that a lot.
I think the sort of characters I get defensive about the most are like... the sort of young girls who get bashed a lot, like Sansa Stark, or, well, Magneto. Though the battle is too hard to win for me to bother with Magneto most of the time >_>;.
Thank you! It's kid!Loki, one of the most awesome thing in the Marvel Universe right now; he's very cute.
Yeah, it's one of the reasons I like going there from times to times. So long as I can discuss things, I'm happy! It's harder to get into a vitriolic argument IRL over comics, I think, because people are less likely to be rude to your face. Though situayional offensiveness is still likely to occur, in which case being asertive has worked rather well for me. I always get defensive of characters when someone says something bad about them irl. It's knee-jerk, contradictory instinct.
I suppose it must be the same for Wondy fans. :/ I also do the defending-the-Batfamily-concept argument, and the Jason-was-a-good-Robin bit. (So far, if people holding the opinion that Steph "wasn't a real Robin" have discussed with me, they kept that nauseating piece of bullshit to themselves. Defending the Batfamily as a concept has that effect.)
I think the sort of characters I get defensive about the most are like... the sort of young girls who get bashed a lot, like Sansa Stark, or, well, Magneto. Ouch. From what I've heard about it, the Sansa-bashing reminds me of Sakura-bashing in Naruto. Or Kairi-bashing. Or, oooh, Micaiah-bashing in Fire Emblem. I didn't miss that in DC - well, before the reboot and accusation of Mary Sueness started to be thrown right and left. Though I've started watching Young Justice, and guess what, Miss Martian bashing is, apparently, a thing. She bakes cookies, she must be evil.
Though the battle is too hard to win for me to bother with Magneto most of the time >_>; That's what I do about Bruce most of the time. Like you said, haters gonna hate. It must be worse for Mags, though. *feels for you*
Okay, actually going to go to sleep, now. Thanks for the talk!
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Which is so OOC for Bruce that I would've just laughed if not for the way mosty everyone is jumping on Bruce being the actual worst.
Like Bruce would ever refer to Jason in such a vallous way. Like he'd ever make Jason into a cautionay tale for mentors. Like he ever brings Jason up so easily.
And basically I'm sick and tired of the way when Bruce gets badly written, it means he's a
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Sorry, hit reply too soon.
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Well, I bet while some people are very vocal about not liking him, he has much more fans than otherwise. I mean, he is one of the, if not the, most popular superhero out there :)
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You have no idea how many times I've gone into Batman Is Not A Jerk mode at a comics shop. (If I were a Superman fan, I'd be going into Superman Is Not Boring mode as often, I think.) ;)
I like your icon, it's very cute.
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At a comics shops? Ooooh, that must be fun (or very unfun, I'm not sure).
Haha, yeah, I bet Superman fans get that a lot.
I think the sort of characters I get defensive about the most are like... the sort of young girls who get bashed a lot, like Sansa Stark, or, well, Magneto. Though the battle is too hard to win for me to bother with Magneto most of the time >_>;.
Thank you! It's kid!Loki, one of the most awesome thing in the Marvel Universe right now; he's very cute.
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Yeah, it's one of the reasons I like going there from times to times. So long as I can discuss things, I'm happy! It's harder to get into a vitriolic argument IRL over comics, I think, because people are less likely to be rude to your face. Though situayional offensiveness is still likely to occur, in which case being asertive has worked rather well for me. I always get defensive of characters when someone says something bad about them irl. It's knee-jerk, contradictory instinct.
I suppose it must be the same for Wondy fans. :/ I also do the defending-the-Batfamily-concept argument, and the Jason-was-a-good-Robin bit. (So far, if people holding the opinion that Steph "wasn't a real Robin" have discussed with me, they kept that nauseating piece of bullshit to themselves. Defending the Batfamily as a concept has that effect.)
I think the sort of characters I get defensive about the most are like... the sort of young girls who get bashed a lot, like Sansa Stark, or, well, Magneto.
Ouch. From what I've heard about it, the Sansa-bashing reminds me of Sakura-bashing in Naruto. Or Kairi-bashing. Or, oooh, Micaiah-bashing in Fire Emblem. I didn't miss that in DC - well, before the reboot and accusation of Mary Sueness started to be thrown right and left. Though I've started watching Young Justice, and guess what, Miss Martian bashing is, apparently, a thing. She bakes cookies, she must be evil.
Though the battle is too hard to win for me to bother with Magneto most of the time >_>;
That's what I do about Bruce most of the time. Like you said, haters gonna hate. It must be worse for Mags, though. *feels for you*
Okay, actually going to go to sleep, now. Thanks for the talk!
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